👋 Troy, from Tune West in Switzerland 🇨🇭!
I was listening to your talk with Zen Garcia, about the barley that was not aviv! We had to add a 13th. Month in this year, 2022. The pattern we, the Tune West community finally found and follow, confirmed it correctly.
I was concerned about your timeline of counting to Shawuot which you presented to Zen, it is almost ok. But it is very important to get everything 💯% correct. We need to take time to tune all the strings properly, otherwise the music 🎶 will be in disharmony. We want to praise Yahusha ha Mashiach, with perfect tuning. I know you, my dearest brothers, want to obey properly, because it praises our savior and King who wants us to be holy. We will celebrate the true Sabbaths all together and also the appointed festivals on the right time.
Troy, I hope you take some time to read my writing, to understand what I like to explain to you and Zen, an important fine tuning.
It is not possible that the Israelites received the 2 plates of the law already in the summer festival. Correctly counted, 7 weeks and 50 days brings us to the Sabbath the 29th. in the fourth month (beginning July) It was not enough time, in this 12 weeks, to include 40 days for Mose to remain on the mountaintop. They received the law first verbally HIS love covenant in the middle of the summer week Shawuot. Shortly after, Mose went up, in to the cloud, on the new moon day the fifth month. 40 days later he came down, on the 10th of the sixth month, and smashed the plates the first time. The Israelites needed desperately a day of atonement.
Would you tell Zen, because he celebrated Pessach one month too early, he will celebrate Pentecost on the day when they danced around the golden calf. He may want to correct this matter.
With much love from Marianne and Tune West.
What was really happening In the timeline, from the spring feast until the summer festival called Pentecost ? Let’s follow it together.
How long did it take for the Israelites to travel from Sukkot in Egypt until their arrival at the foot of the mountain of Horeb in Midian? How many days was it from the Red Sea crossing to the mountain of the law? Was it seven – or twelve weeks? Let us walk in remembrance with the Israelites and find out.
We know they left Sukkot on the 16th. in the first Month and crossed the Red Sea in the night, the 21nd (end of Marz). They celebrated their first day in freedom-(out of Egypt) on the Sabbath, the 22nd. Were they already, shortly after this great victory over the Egyptians army, already on the 23rd on the road again? They searched three days for water.
Ex 15;22-26 So Moses brought Israel from the Red Sea, and they went out into the wilderness of Shur; and they went three days… …and found no water. And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter… …And he (Mose) cried unto the Lord, and the Lord shewed him a tree, which when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet… …And (the Lord) said, if thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God… …wilt give ear to his commandments… …I will put non of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought on the Egyptians…
Ex 15;27 And they came to Elim, where were twelve wells of water, and threescore and ten (70) palm trees: and they encamped there by the waters.
In Mara Mose cast a tree in the bitter water and it became sweet. did that happen in the week before Sabbath the 29th? Did Mose know about this nice place near by, and bring his people to Elim, where there was much water under beautiful palm trees to rest? On the new moon 🌙 of the second month they arrived (beginning of April) and stayed possible a week. It doesn’t say how long they stayed, but it makes sense, that they needed time to recover from the last two weeks of troubles and victory.
Now we followed already three weeks in their journey and they pitched by the read sea.
Num 33;9-14 …And they removed from Elim, and encamped by the Red Sea.
How long did they camp at this place,that still exists todays and has a fountain called the Well of Mose, in Magna Oasi. This place may be still there today, great to catch fresh fish from the sea.
Now the Israelites had been out of bondage for a whole month, on the full moon they reconsider time (Middle of April) and they stayed in Magna Oasi, It was a smaller place and with one fountain they needed much more patience, to give water to all their animals. Maybe that’s why they turned back to Elim? But afer this they left there and travelled to the wilderness of sin.
Num 33;12-14 And they took their journey out of the wilderness of Sin and encamped in Dophkah. And they departed from Dophka, and encamped in Alush. And they removed from Alush, and encamped at Rephidim…
On Dophkah and Alush they may have rested on the Sabbath and moved on their workdays to the next place. That needed maybe another two weeks until they stopped in Rephidim.
Num 33;14 …and encamped at Rephidim, where was no water for the people to drink.
We would be now in the middle of May, did we count correctly?
2Mo 16;1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin… ….on the fifteenth day of the second month…
After two months, walking out of Egypt we are now in the middle of the third Month (May). Here we may get confused. Why does it say on the second month? Little mistakes of translation! The same problem we see in the counting of (Omer) seven weeks and the 50th day shall be the feast of Pentecost. Because of neglecting to count the new moon days properly, the Jewish Rabbis were also confused, by joining the Roman calendar in 325 ad.
But let’s go on, we are not finished counting the weeks and days, by following the story of the Israelites.
Ex 16;6-8 And Mose and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel. At even, then you shall know that the Lord hath brought you out from the land of Egypt: And in the morning then you shall see the glory of the Lord… ….the Lord shall give you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full..
After two month, in the evening was Sabbath the 15th, quails (birds) came up, and covered the camp and in the morning, the 16th, upon the face of the wilderness there lay manna, a small round thing. But they was still lacking on water.
Ex 17;1-6 …the congregation of the children of Israel… …pitched in Rephidim, and there was no water for the people to drink…And the Lord said to Mose… …take with thee of the elders of Israel; and thy rod, wherewith thou smoothest… …upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shall smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it…
That was happening in Rephidim which translates as “Place of Rest”! How long did they stay there? They got the Manna and had to learn how to collect it properly. Every working day one portion and on the 6th, the preparation day, a double portion, because on Sabbath none came. I believe they may have learned their lesson, in less than two weeks?
In the beginning of the fourth month (June) the Amalekite army was ready to fight the Israelites.
Ex 17;8 Then came Amalek and fought with Israel in Rephidim.
They finally left Rephidim and travelled to the east side of the mountain.
Ex 19;1 In the third month (bad translation, it was after three months!) when the children of Israel were gone out of the land of Egypt, the same day… …pitched in the wilderness; and… …Israel camped before the mount.
This was on the east side of the Mountain. Rephidim was on the west side, where they were winning the war with the Amalekites. It was nice to stay by this blessed water fountain at Horeb,, but it was also an open space and unprotected area, that’s why they moved on to the other side of the Mountain. They pitched their tents exactly three month later, on the same day when they left Egypt.
When did they leave Egypt? As soon as they crossed the Red Sea they were free, on the Sabbath, the twenty second, where Mirjam was dancing in victory. The first week of unleavened bread, they ran away from Pharaoh and that was still in the Territory of the Sinai Peninsula, which was – and still is today part of Egypt.
So we know when they arrived on this mountain, still called today the mountain of the law in the arabic language, it was on the twenty-first of the fourth month, end of June.
Can we can follow and understand the timeline of the Red Sea crossing – to this mountain of the law?
We count from the wave offering, Pessach to Pentecost, seven weeks and fifty days. That was not eight weeks or less – it needed thirteen weeks to complete this timeline. In the fourth month, on the half moon 🌗 of the twenty-first day, Mose went up to the mountain the first time. In the middle of this feast week – Shawuot, God made with the Israelites his spoken love covenant.
There was no time until then, to make a golden calf, and where can we place the forty days, where Mose was remains on the mountain?
Mose went up in to the cloud of the mountain, on the new moon day of the fifth month (Beginning of July). He stayed up for 40 days and came down on the 10. of the sixth month. Because he didn’t show up for the feast (Chag) of the new moon, the people forced Aaron to build a golden calf, to falsely celebrate this first week of the sixth month (August).
It was for the Israelites most necessary, to get redeemed one month later, on the day of Atonement.
I hope this was helpful to correct miss translation of modern Pharisees teachings today. We have to reconsider everything and start again from the beginning.
Act 17;30-31 And the times (Moedin) of this ignorance God winked at; but now commanded all men everywhere to repent; Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained….
Yeshua was born in the night of the great day of atonement, on the 10th of the seventh month (September). It is still possible today to find proof of treasured truth in the holy scriptures. With humble prayer, faithful servants will know the truth, that sets us free – from binding us in to false manmade-traditions.
It is not possible that the Israelites received the 2 plates of the law already at the Summer festival. Correctly counted, seven weeks and 50 days until Pentecost, was on the Sabbath the 29th in the fourth month (Beginning July). It was not enough time, between the Red Sea crossing until Shawuot, in this 12 weeks to include 40 days, where Mose remained on the mountain. He went on the mountain in the fifth month, and 40 days later, on the 10th in the sixth month they danced around the golden calf and the Israelites then desperately needed a day of atonement.
If you celebrate Pessach one month to early, you will celebrate Pentecost on the day when Mose smashed the two plates, on the day when the Israelites danced around the golden calf.
Much love from Marianne and Tune West. Sent from my iPad